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NCFG question to WBC executive 18/10/18

News Posted on 31/10/2018 21:13

In
June 2018 WBC released the following press release:

https://info.westberks.gov.uk/article/35379

The
site
(Newbury Football Ground) will be temporarily unavailable while the Council surveys
the site to assess its condition and safety, and to put in place the arrangements
to allow the community to use it. Subject to the results of the survey work we
aim to have the site open in September and will be making it freely available
to the public as a multi-use games area. While residents may choose to use it
for multiple different sports, it will be marked up with two five-a-side
pitches for those wanting to play football.

Residents will be able to simply turn up
and use the space rather than needing to book in advance. These arrangements
will be kept under review by West Berkshire Council to ensure the facility is
being used responsibly.

Question: What evidence
did WBC take into account and what consultation took place to support the
decision as outlined in the press release above?

but on the night…. unfortunately Cllr James Fredrickson failed to answer it 🙁



NCFG reply to Nick Carter about stand 15/10/18

News Posted on 16/10/2018 23:26

Re: FW: Spectator stand
removal from Newbury Football Ground

15
October 2018 07:13 65 KB

From: deputychair@ncfg.uk

To: Nick
Carter

Cc: Graham.Jones@westberks.gov.uk, James.Fredrickson@westberks.gov.uk,
Bob.Sharples@sportengland.org,richard.benyon.mp@parliament.uk,
editor@newburynews.co.uk, fiona.tomas@newburynews.co.uk,
chair@ncfg.uk,press@ncfg.uk, treasurer@ncfg.uk, secretary@ncfg.uk,
planning@ncfg.uk

Dear Nick,

Thank you for your reply.

You state that there is no evidence that West Berkshire Council owns the
spectator stand, so you are implying that Newbury FC definitely does own it.
For the avoidance of any doubt, please can you confirm and provide us with the
supporting documentation and evidence?

As the landlord of the football ground and all the buildings on it we
would expect that as part of its due diligence the council has to be 100%
certain of ownership before entering into discussions regarding the removal of
such a key asset. Removal of the stand also contravenes the Asset of Community
Value which WBC has acknowledged since November 2016 so please can you
elaborate on how changing the purpose of the facility is covered off?

To be clear, Newbury Community Football Group’s position is that there
is no evidence to suggest that Newbury FC owns the stand and we therefore
maintain that your (and the community’s) asset is being sold to Hungerford Town
FC, apparently with your knowledge and blessing.

Given that there is a significant question regarding the ownership of
the stand please can you confirm before the end of tomorrow, Tuesday 16 October
(when NCFG next meets) that WBC will not allow the stand to be dismantled until
these matters have been conclusively determined and further
clarification/evidence is provided?

Your sincerely,

John Stewart
NCFG Deputy Chair
www.ncfg.uk



Nick Carter’s reply about the stand 12/10/18

News Posted on 16/10/2018 23:19

FW: Spectator
stand removal from Newbury Football Ground

12 October
2018 15:58 85 KB

From: Nick
Carter

To: deputychair@ncfg.uk

Dear Mr Stewart

Thank you for
your email dated 22nd September and please accept my apologies
for the delay in responding.

I have set out
my responses below your questions.

I hope this is
helpful.

Kind regards

Nick

From: deputychair@ncfg.uk

Sent: 22 September 2018 00:40

To: Nick Carter Nick.Carter@westberks.gov.uk

Cc: Graham.Jones@westberks.gov.uk; James.Fredrickson@westberks.gov.uk; Bob.Sharples@sportengland.org; richard.benyon.mp@parliament.uk; editor@newburynews.co.uk; fiona.tomas@newburynews.co.uk; advisor@ncfg.uk; chair@ncfg.uk; press@ncfg.uk; treasurer@ncfg.uk; secretary@ncfg.uk


Subject: Spectator stand removal from Newbury Football Ground

Dear Nick,

I am the deputy
chair of Newbury Community Football Group and this letter is for your
attention, but I have also copied it to other interested parties for openness,
clarity and publication (please see cc addresses).

Regarding the
application by Hungerford Town FC to demolish the large, seated, covered
spectator stand (which has been a permanent structure for around 25 years) at
Newbury Football Ground, Faraday Road, please can you read the background and
ownership-related statements below and then respond to the questions which
follow?

Background

NCFG’s primary
objective is to save the football ground and retain it for its purpose of
organised football matches at the higher levels of league football where a top
quality playing surface, pitch & perimeter fencing, floodlights, changing
rooms, WCs, clubhouse and spectator stands are required. Removal of the stand
greatly reduces the ground’s ability to function and is effectively a
“change of use”. Note that it achieved a higher ground grading than F
(National League System step 5) before the council removed the tenant’s security
of tenure, thus excluding the tenant club from joining high leagues and there
is still no planned site development for some years to come.

Ownership

a. Newbury
Town FC had the stand erected before they folded in 1995 after which time the
ground assets remained the property of the council.

b. AFC
Newbury FC leased the ground from the council from 1996 until they folded in
2007 and again the ground assets remained in the council’s ownership.

c. Newbury
FC leased the ground from 2008 until 2018 and when they were evicted in June,
the ground assets still belonged to the council, as landlord.

d. The
various council’s football club leases mention the stand as the landlord’s
asset.

e. West
Berks Council lists the land and permanent buildings on its asset register.

f. There
has never been any mention of the stand belonging to our NCFG partners Newbury
FC in previous correspondence since NCFG formed in late 2015.

g. Cllr
Anthony Pick (chair) at the recent Newbury Town Council planning meeting on 10
September stated that WBC owns the stand.

There is no
evidence that WBC owns the stand. It is considered a tenant’s fixture and for
which the Council has no responsibility. A previous tenant paid for the stand
and acquired planning permission for its erection and a subsequent tenant took
on responsibility for that fixture. Prior to leaving the ground, the last
tenant offered the fixture to another club and the Council will not prevent
such arrangements providing relevant planning consents have been achieved.

h. WBC’s
Asset of Community Value lists the stand as an integral part of the protected
ground, also covered by cultural facility and green infrastructure policies.

It is
permissible for the stand to be taken by another party providing such action
does not constitute a disposal. The stand is not being sold but we understand
gifted to Hungerford and in this context the Council is happy with the stand
being passed to Hungerford. Overall the Council is comfortable that matters
relating to Planning, Policy and the ACV are covered off.

i. WBC’s
response to NCFG’s stage 2 complaint in late August stated that there were no
plans to demolish any part of the facility.

That is correct.
The stand as a moveable tenant’s fixture is being dismantled and relocated.
Dismantling is covered under ‘demolition’ in Planning terms and similarly HTFC
will need a planning consent to re-erect the stand. Reference the buildings on
site, no demolition application has been drawn up and none has been requested.

j. The
above statement was made round about the same time as HTFC’s notification to
demolish.

As stated, the
stand as a tenant’s fixture is being dismantled and relocated (the latter
subject to Planning consent) and the buildings on site are being left.

k. The
prior notification in early September by HTFC to demolish suddenly changed on
29 September to no longer needing planning involvement which WBC was fully
aware of.

Nothing suddenly
changed. Officers in WBC Property Services were contacted by HTFC saying the
latter had been offered the stand by the outgoing tenant. Officers acknowledged
this but explained to HTFC that they must be responsible for finding out what
permissions might be required in order for the stand to be removed and
similarly be responsible for confirming what permissions should be required if
HTFC seek to re-erect the strand. HTFC did this of their own volition, followed
due process as advised and was granted the requisite consent via a formal
Planning process.

l. WBC no
longer receives rent from NFC and it would appear that WBC is about to sell a
protected asset.

The Council is
not receiving rent nor is it selling any asset.

Questions

Given the above
statements, please can you present proof to NCFG of:

1. who owns
the stand and why/how it may have changed hands?

The stand is a
tenant’s fixture and which was offered by the outgoing club to another
organisation. The Council did not pay for the stand nor did it seek permission
for its erection and as such is happy to see the stand be dismantled providing
due Planning process has been followed.

2. who has
the authority to allow it to be dismantled and why?

As a tenant’s
fixture, the out-going club was free to offer the stand to another
organisation. The Council as Planning Authority has the authority to grant or
otherwise planning permission for the stand to come down and indeed to be
re-erected elsewhere so long as such re-erection lies within the LPA’s
jurisdiction. A planning application was put in by HTFC, the application was
determined on its own merits and permission was granted.

3. who is
selling or releasing the stand and for how much?

Previous tenant
is releasing the stand and the Council is not benefitting financially from the
removal.

4. who has
been in contact with HTFC, NFC or their representatives regarding the
demolition?

As set out above
in point K. and in Question 2, HTFC contacted WBC about the stand and similarly
HTFC contacted WBC Planning about relevant consents.

5. the
council’s intent to replace the stand, should it be removed.

The Council will
not be replacing the stand should other parties take it away.

We have around
2000 local supporters through our online and paper petitions, around a 100 of
whom attended our recent public consultation, who support NCFG’s efforts to
enhance the ground for future use. They are all voting, West Berks constituents
and would be keen to know what the ground’s landlord/building owner has to say,
as would the Football Association, Sport England and HTFC (who regrettably find
themselves in the centre of this controversy).

Your comments
are noted.

To conclude, we
believe that the stand cannot be touched until these questions have been
answered with proper evidence by WBC so, as their main spokesperson on this
matter, thank you in anticipation of your timely, full reply.

So long as any
removal is not a financial transaction between parties, the Council is happy to
see the stand dismantled and usefully re-erected elsewhere (subject to the
requisite planning consent).

Yours sincerely,

John Stewart

NCFG Deputy
Chair

www.ncfg.uk

deputychair@ncfg.uk

07940 892407



FOI from WBC on stand demolition 10/10/18

News Posted on 16/10/2018 22:59

We asked who was involved in organising the stand demolition and WBC sent us an email trail of officers who were liasing with Newbury FC and Hungerford Town FC officials. WBC say they don’t own it, so are allowing Newbury FC to sell it to Hungerford Town FC.
Read the details from the reply on 05/10/18 here



No reply from WBC about stand! 09/10/18

News Posted on 09/10/2018 22:41

Still not heard from Nick Carter who has had more than 10 working days to compose a response…



Email to Nick Carter WBC about stand 22/09/18

News Posted on 09/10/2018 22:40

From: deputychair@ncfg.uk

Sent: 22 September 2018

To: nick.carter@westberks.gov.uk

Cc: Graham.Jones@westberks.gov.uk;
James.Fredrickson@westberks.gov.uk;
Bob.Sharples@sportengland.org;
richard.benyon.mp@parliament.uk;
editor@newburynews.co.uk; fiona.tomas@newburynews.co.uk; advisor@ncfg.uk; chair@ncfg.uk; press@ncfg.uk;
treasurer@ncfg.uk; secretary@ncfg.uk

Subject: Spectator stand removal from Newbury Football Ground

Dear Nick,

I am the deputy chair of Newbury Community Football Group
and this letter is for your attention, but I have also copied it to other
interested parties for openness, clarity and publication (please see cc
addresses).

Regarding the application by Hungerford Town FC to demolish
the large, seated, covered spectator stand (which has been a permanent
structure for around 25 years) at Newbury Football Ground, Faraday Road, please
can you read the background and ownership-related statements below and then
respond to the questions which follow?

Background

NCFG’s primary objective is to save the football ground and
retain it for its purpose of organised football matches at the higher levels of
league football where a top quality playing surface, pitch & perimeter
fencing, floodlights, changing rooms, WCs, clubhouse and spectator stands are
required. Removal of the stand greatly reduces the ground’s ability to function
and is effectively a “change of use”. Note that it achieved a higher
ground grading than F (National League System step 5) before the council
removed the tenant’s security of tenure, thus excluding the tenant club from
joining high leagues and there is still no planned site development for some
years to come.

Ownership

Newbury Town FC had the stand erected before they folded in
1995 after which time the ground assets remained the property of the council.

AFC Newbury FC leased the ground from the council from 1996
until they folded in 2007 and again the ground assets remained in the council’s
ownership.

Newbury FC leased the ground from 2008 until 2018 and when
they were evicted in June, the ground assets still belonged to the council, as
landlord.

The various council’s football club leases mention the stand
as the landlord’s asset.

West Berks Council lists the land and permanent buildings on
its asset register.

There has never been any mention of the stand belonging to
our NCFG partners Newbury FC in previous correspondence since NCFG formed in
late 2015.

Cllr Anthony Pick (chair) at the recent Newbury Town Council
planning meeting on 10 September stated that WBC owns the stand.

WBC’s Asset of Community Value lists the stand as an
integral part of the protected ground, also covered by cultural facility and
green infrastructure policies.

WBC’s response to NCFG’s stage 2 complaint in late August
stated that there were no plans to demolish any part of the facility.

The above statement was made round about the same time as
HTFC’s notification to demolish.

The prior notification in early September by HTFC to
demolish suddenly changed on 29 September to no longer needing planning
involvement which WBC was fully aware of.

WBC no longer receives rent from NFC and it would appear
that WBC is about to sell a protected asset.

Questions

Given the above statements, please can you present proof to
NCFG of:

1. who owns the stand and why/how it may have changed hands?

2. who has the authority to allow it to be dismantled and
why?

3. who is selling or releasing the stand and for how much?

4. who has been in contact with HTFC, NFC or their
representatives regarding the demolition?

5. the council’s intent to replace the stand, should it be
removed.

We have around 2000 local supporters through our online and
paper petitions, around a 100 of whom attended our recent public consultation,
who support NCFG’s efforts to enhance the ground for future use. They are all
voting, West Berks constituents and would be keen to know what the ground’s
landlord/building owner has to say, as would the Football Association, Sport
England and HTFC (who regrettably find themselves in the centre of this
controversy).

To conclude, we believe that the stand cannot be touched
until these questions have been answered with proper evidence by WBC so, as
their main spokesperson on this matter, thank you in anticipation of your
timely, full reply.

Yours sincerely,

John Stewart

NCFG Deputy Chair

www.ncfg.uk

deputychair@ncfg.uk



Letter to NWN 18/09/18

News Posted on 09/10/2018 22:36

Letter to NWN

From: chair@ncfg.uk

Sent: 17 September 2018 11:38

To:
editor@newburynews.co.uk

Subject:
Great support from the public, shame about our Councillors

Dear Sir/Madam

Great support
from the public, shame about our Councillors

Newbury Community
Football Group (NCFG) held a very successful public consultation last Thursday
13th September at the Document House regarding their recently submitted
planning application for a state of the art 3G
pitch and new clubhouse facilities at Faraday Road as over 100 people attended
over the two sessions. The interest shown by general public reflects the
increasing public awareness and support for NCFG’s campaign to save and develop
Newbury’s football ground. The current NCFG petition, launched only 10
days has already received support from 1800 people.

This
is in stark contrast to the interest shown by our local Councillors.

NCFG
sent letters and emails to all 52 West Berkshire Councillors and 14 Newbury
Town Councillors (66 in total) inviting them to “Councillors
pre -public consultation discussion”. The invitation stated that “Rightly or wrongly we
feel that the Councillors of West Berkshire Council and Newbury Town Council
are not fully aware of why a significant number of the local electorate and
their young families, think that it is really important to preserve and enhance
a community football ground in Newbury. As such we would like the opportunity
to arrange a meeting with you to discuss the key points and to share with you
with the evidence that makes this such a crucial and important local issue. We
sense that the Council’s current position is entrenched in as much as a
“vision” floated a number of years ago could mean that the town’s only football
ground will be sacrificed to build 80 or so more flats near the town
centre. ”

Only
5 Councillors accepted the invitation and 21 declined. However even more
worrying for local democracy and despite being sent a reminder 40 Councillors
totally ignored the invitation. Despite this really disappointing
response from the Councillors NCFG will try again to arrange another session
for Councillors to ensure that more than 5 of them will have the chance to
understand why this is such an important issue.

Paul Morgan

Newbury Community Football Group (NCFG)



NTC planning reports 18/09/18

News Posted on 18/09/2018 22:13

Newbury Today news reports on town council planning meeting outcomes from 10/09/18:

Newbury Town Council planning meeting – removal of stand, click here

Newbury Town Council planning meeting – 3G pitch buildings & car park, click here



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